An Issue of Contention

Dear All

I hope that all the righteous are doing well and saving lots of animals and I hope those who seek to kill, hurt or maim animals are not having a good time and simply do not get their sadistic way.

Well these past couple of weeks I have had to deal with the police on quite a number of occasions (which I cannot divulge) regarding the naughtiness of hunts and their supporters.  On all occasions I have discussed issues with the police they have always come up with the same old crap about hunting being an contentious issue and that they are simply non-biased and in the middle!
You know it really is a shame that the police truly do not have any idea on what they are saying! All discussions on contention, cruelty, pros and cons, effect on livelihood, investigations, cases put forward and sincerely held beliefs have been discussed.  2004 saw not a ban which appears a softer label for the change of the LAW regarding hunting thereby making it ILLEGAL TO HUNT WILD ANIMALS.  Funny that!  All that time, effect, work and money that people went through to bring about this law – the countless committees, in the Queen’s speech, readings in parliament, then back to committee then back into further readings in parliament, up to the lords and then back to parliament only to force it through the lords and make it set in stone in the STATUTES OF LAW and for the police just to say that they are non-biased and truly in the middle of us and them?  Can I believe my ears?! No I fucking cannot.
The police have to realise that they are NOT the law, nor are they in any position to state which laws they will uphold.  They are not law lords nor are they parliament – they are CUSTODIANS and UPHOLDERS of LAW – simply that.
They have stated to me that there are arguments on both sides of the ‘debate’ – but there is no more debate.  We are NOT protesters – WE HELP UPHOLD THE LAW.  Indeed there are always arguments for EVERY SINGLE statute that has been made law;
Rape – s/he raped me – they were asking for it.
Fraud – They are nothing but thieves – I needed the money
Murder – How can you kill someone it is wrong – I felt a massive rush/they asked for it.
Hunting – You cannot kill animals for fun it is wrong – We are sick people with small genitals!
NO MATTER which law you look at from the downright evil to the innocuous, there are two sides of the story.  I was told by a police DC a little while ago that there were not enough police to police hunts – Let’s take a look at some figures:
From the website of the sick paedophilic scum (master of foxhounds association), they state that they represent 174 packs in England with a further 10 in Scotland – this makes a total of 184 foxhound packs, although there are more out there (with a lot being unregistered).  Now let’s take a look at the numbers for reported crime statistics in the UK during July 2011 to July 2012.

Category of offence	Thousands of reported crimes, 2010/11	Thousands of reported crimes, 2011/12
Source: ONS
Vandalism	2123	1916
Vehicle vandalism	1425	1302
Other vandalism	699	614
Burglary	743	677
With entry	453	390
Attempts	290	286
With loss	294	269
No loss (including attempts)	449	407
Vehicle-related theft	1228	1135
Theft from vehicles	901	826
Theft of vehicles	93	94
Attempts of and from	234	216
Bicycle theft	500	459
Other household theft	1315	1335
Unweighted base – household crime	47401	42355
Theft from the person	575	595
Snatch theft from person	85	71
Stealth theft from person	490	524
Other theft of personal property	1076	1031
All violence	2157	1977
Wounding	521	442
Assault with minor injury	537	492
Assault without injury	859	796
Robbery	241	246
Violence with injury	1159	1026
Violence without injury	998	951
Domestic violence	332	353
Acquaintance	692	685
Stranger	892	686
Mugging (robbery + snatch theft)	326	318
Unweighted base – personal crime	47427	42386
All acquisitive crime	5678	5478
Household acquisitive crime	3786	3605
Personal acquisitive crime	1892	1873
ALL HOUSEHOLD CRIME	5910	5521
ALL PERSONAL CRIME	3808	3603
ALL CSEW CRIME	9718	9124
Unweighted base surveyed	47427	42386

These numbers are really eye opening when you look at them.  So it we were to consider the simplest case with one perpetrator per reported crime Violence with Injury would mean that 1026 people (cases) have been reported and investigated by the police.

From justice.gov.uk, we also find very similar data but this time with the convictions of the crimes for example:

Main findings – Q3 2012

Between Q3 2011 and Q3 2012 the total number of disposals given for knife or offensive weapon possession has decreased by 19 per cent from 5,484 to 4,433.


So here we have numbers totally in thousands of cases and convictions for crimes such as violence and knife crime – what do we get from this? We get that police are upholding the laws in these areas or in other words they will HAVE A CRIME REPORTED, INVESTIGATE and PROCEED TO COURT in order to obtain convictions (doing their job).  So why are they sending out police who prattle out the crap about being non-biased and the like or officers who do not know the law about hunting?!

The police are quick to deal with crime when it is easy and not when it means that they have to listen to us.  We need to change this as the only ones who are upholding the law in the countryside are hunt saboteurs and hunt monitors.

THE POLICE NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS – they have arrested and convicted people for a LOT LESS and on the most pathetic grounds or shaky evidence.

For the hunted animal and the LAW

Christmas Soon Upon Us!

Hi All

Well we are entering the festive period once again (the groans can stop now!) and things start to get really Christmassy - which I like (not the 4 months in advance the shops do but there you go!).

And this post is really just a quick reminder to those that it is also the biggest time of the sick and twisted calendar  - The Boxing Day meet!  Hunt perverts really crawl out from under their rocks on Boxing Day in order to satiate their blood lust.  There will be a fair few of them, as most of them will drag anyone they know in order to show those damn meddlesome 'antis' that they love their paedophilic sport.

So if you do not sab or monitor, get along to your nearest demonstration against the filthy bastards and show them that you do not like hunting.  If you can organise a demo or something make sure that all channels are dealt with etc. and make sure that you are safe when in close proximity to the derranged wankers.

However in saying this, many people seem to either forget or not realise that the sick fuckers also go out on Christmas Eve!  That one day (and what a day!) Christmas Day seems to really frustrate the great unclean because they cannot go out and kill animals against the law - so they make up for it by going out on the days either side.

So remember to get out there, get the police out there (as it is their job to uphold the law regardless what the morons say) and show the evil half-breeds that we are here, we will win and we will NOT STOP until they do permenantly!

For the hunted animal and the LAW (ban)

Once Again More Arrogance

Hi All

David Lee Peters trying to hide behind some 'new' hunting apparel!  Also notice the nazi salute from the green coat to the right!

Well once again we see more arrogance from the hunting fraternity but this time from the very same hunt in trouble for racially abusing a hunt saboteur; The Ross Harriers!

Well well well!!! I am not surprised that this kind of scum have done what they did, but to get into the headlines for a second time in such a short period truly astounds me!!!!  You would have thought that the hunt would be keeping a VERY LOW profile since the f***ing w** incident, but no!  They are far beyond that and once again their release following the recent problem shows their arrogance exudes from them just as much as their evil intent.

Below is a cut and paste from NWHSA blog (http://nwhsa.wordpress.com/):-

Pet cat ran for its life as hounds gave chase
Thursday, 22 November 2012
A hunt has been accused of terrorising a family pet days after its master was convicted of racially harassing a protester.
Dad William Ricks claims Ross Harrier hounds chased daughter Anna’s cat after coming out of the Forest of Dean and onto his land on Saturday.
Five hours later the cat Minna was found cowering 30ft up a tree in the middle of the woods.
He has complained to police and the Forestry Commission about the incident last Saturday.
On Thursday, Harrier’s hunt master David Lee Peters was found guilty of using racially abusive words to a protester sitting in her car.
He was fined £720, and ordered to pay his victim £200 compensation.
He was in charge of the pack when Mr Ricks claims dogs ran into his garden from adjoining Bailey Inclosure.
“The cat legged it into the woods chased by around six or eight baying hounds,” he said.
“It was running for its life. You can imagine how terrifying it must have been for the young cat to be pursued by a pack of hounds in full cry.”
He said the family and several neighbours spent more than five hours looking for Norwegian Forest cat Minna.
“We prepared ourselves for the worse because we thought she might have been ripped to shreds,” he said.
“In the end she was shaken but fine because she could scramble up the tree away from the hounds.”
He reported it to the police and the Forestry Commission.
“Whatever people think about hunting in principle, I feel very strongly that the hunt should be stopped from riding roughshod over local residents and allowing their hounds to enter residential gardens and terrorise domestic animals,” he said.
West Mercia Police confirrmed officers were called to Hope Mansell after a complaint about dogs from a hunt being on the land of local residents.
A spokesman said: “Officers established that no criminal offences had been committed. Words of advice were given to both hunt members and the landowners.”
Nationally, the Forestry Commission allows trail or drag hunting, but not fox hunting on its land.
Only Cotswold Vale Hunt has permits for Lea Bailey two days this season and Deputy Surveyor Kevin Stannard has asked the Harriers for an explanation.
Hunt spokesman Anna Ernsting said: “The Ross Harriers regret that hounds were able to freely access gardens from farm land where we had permission to be. Letters have already been sent to the residents and we will inform them in advance should we be in the area again. We are not the only hunt in the area.”

Now the Cuntryside Alliance must be fuming at this latest news from the Ross Harriers as everything pinned on hunt scum makes them reel back in shock, horror and denial. But the release along with the usual diarrhea they (Ross Harriers) come up with is the thing that surprises me.

Now we all know that hunts have the very tenuous control on their hounds at the best of times - sometimes intentionally.  But the 'normal' procedure for someone bringing a pack of hounds which are trained to kill, to an area which results in cats and various other animals being chased and killed, would be to apologise profusely stating that they would not do it again.

But NOT the Ross harriers it seems...............

Hunt spokesman Anna Ernsting said: “The Ross Harriers regret that hounds were able to freely access gardens from farm land where we had permission to be. Letters have already been sent to the residents and we will inform them in advance should we be in the area again. We are not the only hunt in the area.”

So they 'regret' what happened.  Which regret would that be?  That they trespassed?  That they were caught?  That they almost killed someone's pet?  That if their hounds are likely to riot (as is the case) that they haven't muzzled them yet?  The list goes on.

Also the letter states that they have informed the residents when they will be dragging their knuckles back into town - so basically that means "keep your animals locked up because we're here".  SHEER ARROGANCE, nothing else.

The last bit also shows their true colours, "we're not the only hunt in the area"!  Well you can glean so much form this - "have a go at someone else please"! "If we are likely to chase and kill your pets, then so are our friends"! Or perhaps "we are all alike and do not give a shit about anything so long as we are having our fun"!

The last thing is from the very section of establishment in charge of law and order; the Police.  West Mercia police stated:-
A spokesman said: “Officers established that no criminal offences had been committed. Words of advice were given to both hunt members and the landowners.”

So out of control canines (regardless of being hounds or not) do NOT fall into the law regarding dangerous dogs then?  It is about time that the police realised that HUNTING WITH HOUNDS WAS OUTLAWED in 2005.  The matter has moved on from being an issue of morality or contention. It is a matter of LAW full stop.

The debates for morality were discussed years ago, the will of the majority prevailed and the DUE COURSE of democracy was adhered to and hunting was outlawed.  I do not give a shit that there are two sides with this issue - you can say this of every law in the statute books. 

A thief does not want to be caught, they want to steal and get away with it.  They will argue their case and so will those who fight against them.......

A person committing rape will argue big time about the person they have just raped asking for it and so on.  People fighting against this issue will argue that it is wrong and disgusting; two sides of the story.......

Someone guilty of murder will argue that they did what they did for a reason very valid to them.  People fighting against this will argue that it is wrong.......

All three examples are illegal (and rightly so) but they are policed very well.  Hunting live quarry with hounds is against the law - it is in the statute books and therefore it is the LAW.  It's about time that the police stand up and stop being pathetic when faced with angry paedophilic bastards illegally hunting with hounds.

For the hunted animal and the LAW (ban)